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its really weird to see all these articles about how people who have ADHD have sleeping problems but the issue I have is that if you look at it as a matter of your circadian rythym being out of sync? of COURSE you’re not going to be able to sleep. we don’t say people who can’t fall asleep at 4 pm and sleep 8 hours have insomnia, because that’s not a normally agreed upon time to sleep and its not your bodies time to sleep. if you tell someone to go to bed at 10 and they can’t sleep till 3 am sometimes in just not insomnia. people with ADHD are often wired to sleep from 4 am to 12 pm ish because of the delayed onset of melatonin but if you let us go to bed at the time we need? most of us actually sleep pretty well and consistently.

wAIT THIS IS AN ACTUAL THING THAT EXISTS

“For most adults the onset of melatonin is around 9.30 pm; in ADHD children compared to controls this occurs at least 45 minutes later, and in adults with ADHD even 90 minutes (van der Heijden ea, 2005; van Veen ea 2010). After melatonin onset, it normally takes 2 hours to fall asleep, but in adults with ADHD it takes at least 3 hours (Bijlenga et al, 2013).”

Look at me awake at 1:47 am and reblogging this post.

So I’m actually trained in therapy for addressing insomnia and one of the things we learned is that a good chunk of sleep problems are societal disorders – as in they WOULDN’T EXIST as problems if society didn’t assume everyone was on the same circadian rhythm and that being up and working 9-5 was mandatory/normal. Blew my mind and made so much sense. You are not the problem, society is literally the problem.

It’s called delayed sleep phase disorder, it is commonly comorbid with ADHD and OCD, and it’s only debilitating because of societal expectations. I’m forced to work night shift because I have the most severe form of DSPD (cannot fall asleep before 4 or 5AM no matter what) which causes other problems with my life because people don’t comprehend that I sleep during the day.

Oh…

This is why we call it “neurodiversity.” These conditions are often more about brains working differently than them straight up malfunctioning. Our society just isn’t built to accommodate a wide array of brain types.

Oh my god

in societies that still sleep in groups outdoors- you know, like most of humanity has been doing for vastly longer than walls and houses have been a thing- people naturally fall asleep and wake up at different times, so in a given group of sleeping people there’s always a few people awake to make sure that there’s no threats around. As in, humans actually evolved to naturally do this.

I knew I had a different circadian rhythm and I’ve tried polyphasic sleeping and I knew that sleeping eight hours hasn’t always been a normal thing, but I didn’t know about the four to twelve bit!!!! That’s EXACTLY when I want to sleep!!!